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I have archived your RFC since it was totally out-of-standards. I link you my saturday-explanation, if you have not read it yet: 1--DoppioM 19:17, 11 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Please do not remove text based on your own personal political opinion. Reporting a sentence of Milosevic doesn't mean endorsing or supporting his positions, it's just a matter of historical completeness. Removing text in the way you did it is against the netural point of view since you based your removal on your own political positions. Thanks.--L736El'adminalcolico 08:35, 18 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Gentile Justice and Arbitration,

al prossimo contributo contrario alle linee guida di Wikipedia scatterà un blocco in scrittura sulla tua utenza, pertanto questo è l'ultimo invito a collaborare in modo costruttivo.

Per favore, rispetta il lavoro altrui: segui le regole e usa il buon senso.

Gac 08:56, 18 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Slobodan Milosevic...controlled, contributed to, or otherwise utilised Serbian state-run media outlets to manipulate Serbian public opinion by spreading exaggerated and false messages of ethnically based attacks by Croats against Serb people in order to create an atmosphere of fear and hatred among Serbs living in Serbia and Croatia. The propaganda generated by the Serbian media was an important tool in contributing to the perpetration of crimes in Croatia.
And this is coming from an international Tribunal. So, are you seriously claiming that it is OK to use him and his propaganda as a good source for anything? And this link [1], which you just returned back into the Croatian War article [2], without looking, says also the following:
  1. that Serbia was dealing with peace during wars in Croatia and Bosnia
  2. that the war in Bosnia is Bosniak's fault because they rejected the Cutiliero plan
  3. that "foreign sources" caused the wars in Yugoslavia to "gain control" of the Balkans
  4. that the Albanian "terrorists" killed more Albanians on Kosovo than Serbs
  5. that there was no repression on Kosovo
  6. that "foreign forces" want to create "Greater Albania" from parts of Macedonia and Greece
  7. various rants about the "Fourth Reich "etc.
So do you seriously want to write all this on Wikipedia, too?
"Please do not remove text based on your own personal political opinion. Reporting a sentence of Milosevic doesn't mean endorsing or supporting his positions, it's just a matter of historical completeness. Removing text in the way you did it is against the netural point of view since you based your removal on your own political positions. Thanks."
Oh, really? So Slobodan is neutral? If you want to collect Slobodan's "jewels", you can do it on his article. You should not, however, consider using him as a source for something. The Croatian War article does not "report his sentence" - it uses his propaganda as fact. See for yourself, it does not say that Slobodan reported that Franjo Tudjman quote, but that Tudjman actually said it.

Likewise, since my discussion on the Croatian War was deleted, something tells me that there is something fishy going on here, i.e. that Slobodan's propaganda is trying to spread here and that you are helping it. So, the best thing to do is to direct me to a arbitration committee here so that a neutral and fair trial can be made on this issue and both sides can display their arguments. Thanks. --Justice and Arbitration (msg) 21:30, 18 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

There are no plots or similar stuffs, simply I don't trust serbian nor croatian propaganda. So, I'll keep the page procted until I'll have a third neutral opinion. At a first glance you seem to be right, so you don't need to be hasty. See you! --Vito (msg) 23:48, 18 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Cortesemente quando editi nella Wikipedia in lingua italiana utilizza l'italiano e non l'inglese. In caso contrario i tuoi interventi, anche in pagina di discussione, portebbero essere cancellati senza preavviso. --Guidomac dillo con parole tue 10:38, 20 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Mi associo. --Gac 11:59, 20 lug 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]