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Naturalmente un benvenuto anche da parte mia! Se avessi bisogno di qualcosa non esitare a contattarmi. Freeezer (msg) 09:02, 18 lug 2019 (CEST)

WOWIE Awards

Hello, it turns out that World of Wonder has its own page on en.wiki, meaning it's an encyclopedic company. Why wouldn't an award of an encyclopedic company be counted towards Wikipedia? BreakTudo Awards seem to be added in lots of articles on en.wiki, but I've never seen any trustable source talk mention it (Billboard, etc.), so your motivation of removal doesn't make any sense to me. Should BreakTudo Awards be also removed at this point? 🤔 --ꜰʀᴀɴᴄᴇꜱᴄᴏ 14:03, 30 dic 2020 (CET)

France3c0, World of Wonder is the company and a completely separate entity from the award show itself. The actual award ceremony, the Wowie Awards, has received extremely minimal coverage outside of its own self-published articles. The wiki page you linked uses a primary source in the section about the awards, which does not make it notable. And that 2018 billboard article is almost the only one you will find from a reliable source about the show. Myself and some other editors looked into it across on the English wiki and there was not sufficient coverage from multiple reliable secondary sources for it to be considered notable hence why I removed it. I said as much in my edit summary but I guess you missed that? The BreakTudo awards have been covered by multiple reliable Spanish/Portuguese sources over the years and therefore cannot be used for comparison. Having said that, should I revert your edit or will you undo it yourself? -- Carlobunnie (msg) 14:43, 30 dic 2020 (CET)

It may not make it notable, but since the company is encyclopedic I don't see the reason to remove their own award from articles, taking into consideration the fact that it also has its own physical trophy that you can see right here. I don't know where you looked at but there's enough coverage about the award show: despite Billboard making an article about it, Gay Times, Out and BroadwayWorld also seem to have mentioned it and they're all reliable sources since they have their own article on en.wiki. With that being said, feel free to open a discussion here if you keep acting as if there isn't "enough" coverage to include such company's awards on Wikipedia. --ꜰʀᴀɴᴄᴇꜱᴄᴏ 15:08, 30 dic 2020 (CET)

[@ France3c0] notability is one of the major requirements for something being included on Wikipedia, even though some editors still create articles for topics that don't meet notability requirements. 1) three sources does not make a topic notable and is hardly sufficient coverage, 2) those articles you linked only mention this year's show, 3) there's practically nothing else for the ceremony in the past years (like I said before, that BB article is one of the only ones you'll find if you do an intensive google search), 4) a trophy being given does not automatically make it notable/encyclopedic so idk who told you that. See this discussion between myself and another editor (the GayTimes source you linked above is mentioned), and also this edit summary left by a third editor. I'm not "acting" like anything. I've done indepth research (as I usually do for anything I add or contest on any article) and other editors share my opinion as well. Unless Italian wiki has a completely different definition of what notability is and what "sufficient/extensive coverage" means? -- Carlobunnie (msg) 23:08, 30 dic 2020 (CET)

I don't know and honestly could care less about how en.wiki works, but the company itself is encylopedic (if it's not, then why hasn't their article been proposed for deletion yet if it doesn't meet notability requirements? 😬), so whether you like it or not their awards can be added to Wikipedia (at least it.wiki). There's mininum coverage about their award show, and Billboard is one of the most important music magazines just in case you didn't know. So, taking into account your point, let's look at the Hungarian Music Awards. As you will see, there isn't much coverage about the award show, yet it's considered the "Hungarian Grammy" and it's presented by Mahasz (Hungary's Recording Industry Association). Just because there isn't "much" coverage, an award show of an encylopedic company can't be added? Your point still doesn't make sense and, as I said before, if you don't like the way the reality is, feel free to go here and talk about it. The award can't be removed from articles unless there's a large consensus. --ꜰʀᴀɴᴄᴇꜱᴄᴏ 23:52, 30 dic 2020 (CET)

en:Talk:The Storm Before the Calm#Euro label

[@ Carlobunnie] Share your thoughts regarding the album if you wish to. Sorry for the IP has blocked from English Wikipedia. 2402:1980:326:8331:ED01:3B2E:6E16:8230 (msg) 06:26, 28 set 2023 (CEST)