Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Copyright problem

• Vi chiedo di controllare questa discussione riguardo un possibile problema di copyright su it.wikipedia.org. Grazie
• Please see this about a supposed copyright problem on it.wikipedia. Thank you Smartse (msg) 20:18, 3 feb 2012 (CET)

Trattasi di utente italiano anonimo che ha scritto sulla pagina della wikipedia in lingua inglese per lamentarsi del fatto che noi (su it.wiki) abbiamo compiuto alcune violazioni di copyright. Giustamente Smartse gli ha risposto che le wikipedie sono indipendenti. Il messaggio dell'anonimo è il seguente:

testo di provenienza da en.wikipedia.org

Copyright violation of screwed pages

Hi. Besides I beg your pardon for my bad english. I'd like to know which is right procedure to solve this copyvio:

In last 3 months a group of IPs started screwing the it:Prima Divisione (italian football Third Division) seasons 1929-30 to 1952-53 and Fourth Division it:Quarta Serie copying from a series of books a friend of mine sold the editor all his complete fixtures collection (1909 / 1997). Even if the editors is told having bought the entire collection of microfilms of the most important italian sports daily news newspaper (told from co-editors who visited his company using his microfilm reader) he needed a well done complete work to entitle his reprints as right and well done (some copies of first series are containing some screwed tables I published on mine, copied from a young man told to be very keen in his reports I later discovered missing of judge's decisions). When he got those tables he modified some lines and published in annual yearbooks starting in 1999 (from season 1922-23 to 1960-61).

Three months ago I discovered a group of italian screwers (now on a edit war with user CapPixel because he's an italian man) and noticed in their hystory they were same IPs who copied your screwed pages into italian ones and tried to correct them.

I asked them why they were rollbacking me and they wrote back they "excluded teams need to be classified". My foult had been not linking immediately the F.I.G.C. rules page where is told it's up to the Federation to decide if a sentenced excluded team can be or not saved from relegation if they're able to demonstrate occurring a special situation causing external problems they got involved in (those users are behaving as exception is the main rule, not the opposite). They are behaving so because they think right their conviction just because they read your pages copyed from those badly screwed books I'm sure subject of copyright violation.

The copyvio in your pages had been made from CapPixel who didn't copy our :it pages but the 2nd series of books, books I'm able to scan and demonstrate I'm right. The worse problem is about screwed tables content: the editor made some very bad errors. He didn't know each table didn't need to be sorted (en: tables got sorted by goal average (it:Quoziente-reti) (in italy goal average had been rarily used, just in 1925-26 and 1938 to 1941, italian users did'nt know that untill I told and demonstrated them) so that using a computer he put in order 1st team to last one including those which didn't complete the championships (or withdraw before starting it !!!) due to anticipated withdraw, reaching 4th fielding denial (sorry don't know the right term) and because judges sentenced their exclusion due to aggressions and so on. Main problem for me stands in the break of equity of a rule set in 1928 and still in use stating excluded teams must not be listed. That editor listed in those tables arbitrarily something not existing in official reports (there's a sports newspaper online to be checked) nor on all sports newspapers and as I reported in the it: claim might compromise all previous and further seasons as those group of rascals are doing now.
In order to complete this claim I need to know if I have to submit you the scanned copyrighted books via email or else and/or simply correct those pages adding links of the online sports pages. Regards.--79.14.57.79 (talk) 16:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Quello che ha copiato il testo ed ha corretto il testo in italiano di Smartse sono io --> --Luckyz (msg) 23:30, 3 feb 2012 (CET)

CVD. --Vito (msg) 13:29, 4 feb 2012 (CET)

IANAL, però non mi è del tutto chiaro cosa costituirebbe violazione di copyright, lo stile è troppo uguale per cui ci sono i diritti da database? Il resto mi sembrano dati. --Cruccone (msg) 20:24, 4 feb 2012 (CET)